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High Revolutionary said: "
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SwaggaB0y said: " jay z "
Jay-Z is a False God... Rakim is the True God MC
yeah I said it... Lol
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Unless he has a mom & dad, climate nobody.
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an atheist?
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mebbe... science?
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CATMANEXE said: " mebbe... science? "GOD curbstomp
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CATMANEXE: Eh okay, i was simply joking around. But Religion isn"t God, for this reason God have the right to take under both if he wanted to, due to the fact that he developed them along with Religion. God also created/is hope, which defeats Logic due to the fact that it have the right to seem illogical that heaven or God exists yet as lengthy as i hope the it does, logic can"t effect it.
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Basically, if we agree that the ax "god" defines an all-powerful, all-knowing being who (perhaps) produced the universe, climate that way there isn"t something that deserve to beat this god.
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CATMANEXE: Eh okay, i was just joking around. However Religion isn"t God, for this reason God have the right to take down both if he wanted to, because he developed them along with Religion. God additionally created/is hope, which defeats Logic since it can seem illogical the heaven or God exists yet as lengthy as i hope the it does, reasonable can"t effect it. "
Logic is more powerful than God
If over there is a logical factor why God exists, then logic created God, is all-powerful and restrains God. If over there is no logical reason why God exists, then it holds the the Universe could exist for no logical reason and also therefore require no creator.Kepler come to similar conclusions about geometry, however didn"t go as far regarding say that it preceded God:
“Geometry existed prior to the Creation. That is co-eternal with the mind of God... Geometry listed God v a design for the Creation... Geometry is God Himself. ”
" Cosmos" by Carl Sagan (1995)
God"s thoughtsIf God has logical thoughts then logic is an ext powerful than God. If God made decision to produce anything it must have had reasons to execute so, as such logic will have actually been dictating God"s thoughts from the minute of God"s inception.
If God"s thoughts space logical from our Human allude of view, then human being logic (as we know it) is a more powerful governor 보다 God; if God exist it must because of this be a product that logic and therefore walk not create logic. If God behaves according to logic that we don"t know (i.e.: person logic is limited) climate God is tho behaving follow to logic, also if it is logic us don"t understand.
If God"s think behave according to no logic, then there room no absolutes. It would be possible for god to produce a square one (an all-powerful being that doesn"t obey logic would be maybe to) just as much as any type of absolute is additionally obsolete, however this makes a mockery of all our religion, afterlife, lives, thoughts, everything, if this is possible. It means we are totally unable to predict anything of god. It provides god unsecured to us, inaccessible.
God, back all-powerful, walk not develop logic. God requires logic in order to think or create.
An example argument of God"s think requiring logic:If reasonable is part of GodA counter argument could be that God is inherently a logical thinker and that logic is part of God and not something that exists top top its own. God has properties such as "benevolent" and likewise "logical". However this defence the God doesn"t occupational for the complying with reason:
If God deserve to contain a property of "logical", climate the following must it is in true: that the Universe, that needs no cause or creator, also can save on computer logic. This means that if this defence is true the cosmos doesn"t require God in order for logic to exist anyway.
ConclusionsIf God thinks logically, climate logic must have existed prior to God and God did not produce logic. If over there is a logical factor why God exists, climate logic is much more potent than God and also restrains God. If over there is no logical factor why God exists, then it holds the the Universe could exist for no reasonable reason and also therefore require no creator. If that is true that God exists external of time and therefore "everything has a cause" walk not use to God climate it is equally feasible that logic, no God, is what exists external of time and also requires no cause.
2. God can"t be "outside" logic
Outside that LogicSome theists will certainly make assertions that god is "outside of outside", "beyond logic", "transcends logic", "not topic to logical limitations" or that "human logic is limited" and other similar argument-stoppers. Back this does show up to litter all intellectualizing out the window, kick every theology the end the former door and also firmly garrison the dwellings of religion from scientific bailiffs, the actually opens up up theism and, in particular, the separation, personal, instance theist, come some additional criticisms.
If "Human logic" is inadequate for metaphysics climate debating for the presence of God is silly. Because it is by human being logic, thought and mentality that we arrive in ~ the concept of God in the first placeTo say the god doesn"t obey logical rules, to say the God might create a ring square, for example, is come say that the abilities of god are abilities that cannot logically exist "Beyond logic" is a synonym because that "irrational", and admissions of ideas that are past logic is an join that such ideas are irrational and also logically indefensible ----- so earlier to the then, how about.... Bondye, Brahma, Ishvara, Odin, Zeus, Orunla, Ra, Shiva, Tabaldak, Tengi, Vendenta, Vishnu, Waheguru, Woden, and also well over 100 other gods and deities the are thought to it is in the supremely powerful being or same too? correct me here however doesnt the statement God is all powerful and no one else have the right to be type of represent spiritual intolerance? kind of the reason whole races and also cultures were eliminated over and also over in primitive time to start with? as much as Church Vs State goes. Ns pretty sure i currently knew the differance between the ide of Church and also State, but thank you because that explaining that. Heres the thing. State speak Church what castle can and cant do, period. For multiple reasons, among the big ones is the the human being that payment religion, is State, not God. The main reason they do keep faith in check, is what i stated above. Usually so religious people dont run about killing world again in the name of God. So...by her statement, it appears then the God have to not one of two people care about any that his followers, or that cares more about State? because he hasnt assisted religion in this endeavor. That hasnt smited the opposition//disbelievers. The hasnt pitched in in this power framework whatesover. Eitherway the adds up to one thing... State>God. Science that course has proven anything that the scriptures couldnt. Religious beliefs lacks something. Solid evidence. At any time their has actually been any, it to be uncovered together a hoax. Evidence sort of helps credibility along. Climate again, one deserve to fall back into the failsafe, thats faiths doing, no Gods. Well, if to be going to simply throw the holy bible out the the window, climate doesnt the whole story of God walk with. The source of scientific research is logic...so therefore.....